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Why are pajeets like this? anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:00:52 242001
>Be pajeet >Be a lazy civ that doesn't see the benefit of writing history and documenting current events >Literally just have one author pre-islamic invasions that wrote something that resembles a work of history >Muslims arrive >Have the decency to write down shit at least in the form of biographies of rulers >Whites arrive, take documenting to a new level. Introduce concepts like history as an academic field, archeology, preserving ruins, etc...create some of the foundational works on Indian history by compiling everything from folklore to primary texts. >Dig up IVC sites, Ashokas edicts, etc... completely forgot by pajeets >Be modern day pajeet >Waaah why there so many islamic sources and shieeeeeeeeet >Why iz so many whitey authors in muh history and shieeeeeeeeet >We wuzzzz 50,000 year old cuntinous civalizasion and shieet. Das rite we always knew of our ivc kangz. Ungrateful rats.
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:06:28 242002 Reply
>>We wuzzzz 50,000 year old cuntinous civalizasion and shieet. Das rite we always knew of our ivc kangz. My sides, lmao.
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:15:48 242004 Reply
>>242001 indians knew writing atleast from 3rd century bce
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:17:13 242005 Reply
>>242001 Kya hua Sasancuck? Jelly that faggy faggot is now becoming the resident history nigger and dethroning you?
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:23:47 242007 Reply
>>242004 Read again >Writing history and documenting current events That's not the same as saying we couldn't write. >>242005 I am offended that people confuse me for some bhangali. Anyway sasancuck is now on reddit.
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:25:03 242008 Reply
>>242001 modern Egyptians didn't know Jack shit about their history where the enslaved Jews and hepthalites until French people explained it for them...and guess what. they didn't gave a shit either, history means nothing when you live in constant suffering today
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:38:38 242010 Reply
>>242008 >guess what. they didn't gave a shit either, history means nothing when you live in constant suffering today Based. Indians should learn a thing or two from them.
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:40:28 242011 Reply
>>242001 >>242007 well you should go to reddit too since most low-IQ nationalists and subhuman librandus are there. you can "redpill" them about how they should be grateful to british. >>242008 history has never meant anything and is in fact actively detrimental, in a court of law you need good evidence to sentence a man to prison for life or death but apparently a few tattered scrolls which say bad things about chamars are enough to have reservations forever. historians and archaeologists should be exiled or shot and history/myth information should be deleted from physical and electronic mediums.
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:45:49 242012 Reply
>>242011 >history has never meant anything and is in fact actively detrimental, in a court of law you need good evidence to sentence a man to prison for life or death but apparently a few tattered scrolls which say bad things about chamars are enough to have reservations forever. historians and archaeologists should be exiled or shot and history/myth information should be deleted from physical and electronic mediums. Finally a based take from this shithole
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:47:54 242013 Reply
>>242011 >enough to have reservations forever I will always be amazed at how some people's entire world view revolves around their butthurt with reservation. I mean I am a UC from middle class family who put in normal amounts of effort fora good college. How hard can it be to outdo millions of rote learning brainlets?
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 16:58:40 242015 Reply
>>242013 i personally don't care about reservations, just giving that as an example. people often justify it by saying that 70 yrs of reservation cannot undo 2k years of oppreshun.
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 17:00:35 242016 Reply
>>242001 as if anything that has happened to india is unique and never happened to any other civilizational in the past. egyptians spent nearly 2,000 years under constant foreign rule. they built wonders that astound us to this day. egyptian works in architecture, philosophy, medicine, and agriculture had huge influence across the mediterranean and mesopotamia. but they still fell. fell to the point that they nearly lost all their language and indigenous traditions. but even after centuries of subjugation they're still surviving and still pushing to maintain their identity. the greeks fell multiple times. a viscous bronze age collapse. many greek states were conquered by persians and even turned into puppet states. fucked up by rome. by turks. by arabs. by steppe hordes. by slavs. but even still, you don't find greeks being doomers about what they've lost. they rightfully respect their past, what connections they have to it, and the idea of maintaining the greek life. throughout the world you can find examples like this. the chinese have gone through it multiple times. the native americans have probably suffered the worst. celts, latins, and germans all have periodic moments of glory and shame throughout their history. mesopotamian civilizations were once the center of the world. now even their peoples are slowly fading. turkic and mongolian tribes were savages with little relevance only until quite recently. compared to others, many still argue they have no civilization or cultural value. and it’s not like this things happen in isolation either. we know so much about egypt due to greek records. we know so much about greece due to arab and roman records. we know so much about celts and germans due to roman records. we know so much about roman records due to english and french archaeologists. rediscovery of native american cultures, sites, and languages was a process that was pioneered by americans, mexicans, and germans. we have a glimpse into some of the earliest stages of civilization because sumerians, persians, and indians all wrote about each other extensively and they preserved these texts. peoples often lose connections to their own past and rely on others to rebuild their narratives. civilizations and peoples going through ebbs and flows is natural. i don't think anyone would argue it's good that so much gets lost to human destruction and time. but it doesn't make your civilization, culture, or ancestors bad that they were conquered. it happens. groups conquer each other. what makes it good or bad is how your culture reacts and survives in the face of civilizational clashes. yes, in the past, indians made mistakes when they came into contact with foreigners. they failed to see enemies for who they were, or they fought with too little when it was too late. much has been lost because of this. but that doesn't diminish what indians have created and what they have gained in the past, nor does it negatively reflect upon how they continue to build in the present.
Fashy anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 17:20:40 242020 Reply
>>242001 >mfw plebbitor copy pasted this retard's quote from https://indiachan.com/pol/res/241873.html#241920 >Muh Indians don't know how to write history and shieet, despite Itihasas and Puranas go through extensive detail on each member of a character's lineage >Never heard of Sangam literature, or of how Mudslime rulers burning down institutions and records. >Also implies Whitoids don't wewuz, especially on more ludicrous concepts like muh Hyperborea (which gained prominence thanks to Evola) or muh Aryan Race meme. Why do Sepoys give such ill-informed opinions?
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 17:26:38 242022 Reply
>>242016 None of the guys you talk about exist anymore. The greekoids became christcucks. Rest of them get exterminated. Egypt is basically arab sandniggers. China might be the only people but they are la Creatura in the sense they are kinda muttifed and commieism killed their culture. Though the thave modernised by sorta copying the Asian tiger model..
anon 06/10/2021 (Thu) 18:35:27 242023 Reply
>>242020 >Why do Sepoys give such ill-informed opinions? they are backed up by the power held by leftist institutions >>242022 pure doomer cope to the point of absurdity. even if you do take that argument seriously, the point still stands that people alive today derive their culture and traditions through different links to specific cultures and traditions belonging to specific peoples in specific regions in the past. combined, these form their narrative. in the vast majority of cases, those modern people are still genetically linked to the people of the past that they draw their lifestyles upon. it's only when you look at specific populations like forcibly relocated slave populations or populations that were driven to the brink of genocide that these genetic connections fall apart. even then, those groups have been living in the same region and practicing a culture for enough generations to have formed their own narrative regarding their traditions and identity as a people. my point still stands.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 02:33:38 242029 Reply
>>242020 >>>Muh Indians don't know how to write history and shieet, despite Itihasas and Puranas go through extensive detail on each member of a character's lineage >Itihaaasas and Puranas are history HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA THE STATE OF THE RESIDENT HISTORY FAG ON INCH, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >or of how Mudslime rulers burning down institutions and records. Overrated pajeet. Even Pajeet areas which didn't have such islamic influence don't have proper historical records. Imagine how retarded you have to be to believe that a handful of "institutions" up north had a majority of your scripts and records with no copies anywhere else that no muslims conveniently destroyed. Yes faggot, the reason we have limited texts to go by on say Cholas or Vijayanagar rule is because muslims burnt down Nalanda or some shit. Faggot retards like you trot out this excuse when even Indian historians (even your most viraatest of viraats) admit documenting shit has been a civilisational weakness. If third rate faggots like you want to discuss history, maybe put some effort into your mental gymnastics.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 03:04:50 242033 Reply
>>242029 >reddit spacing >ebin 4chan hacker frog reaction image (bonus points) >50% of typed nonsense barely structured as in sentences >inability to address substance >inability to make a valid point >inability to provide an argument >incoherent logic when use is attempted, otherwise not present >is an indian but uses "pajeet" as a pejorative
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 03:11:56 242039 Reply
>>242016 >we know so much about egypt due to greek records. we know so much about greece due to arab and roman records. we know so much about celts and germans due to roman records. we know so much about roman records due to english and french archaeologists. rediscovery of native american cultures, sites, and languages was a process that was pioneered by americans, mexicans, and germans. we have a glimpse into some of the earliest stages of civilization because sumerians, persians, and indians all wrote about each other extensively and they preserved these texts. peoples often lose connections to their own past and rely on others to rebuild their narratives. Correction for the Greeks. We know so much about them because of their own records and Roman records. Greeks were prolific writers. So much so as you said the through them we have knowledge of other civilisations they came in contact with. That being said you wrote so many words to miss almost every single main point. 1) My point is Indians are ungrateful.You mention how a German pioneered excavation native American history, do you see native Americans saying said history because the work is done by a German? Are the Greeks ungrateful to the English and French archaeologists who dug up theirs? 2) You admit we often get info one civilisation from another. How often do you see Greeks bitch that the Roman records shouldn't be used or islamic record shouldn't be used because they're biased against? Well right pajeet faggots do this every time they hear something unsavoury about their precious empires. You won't believe how often a pajeet will chimp out if the Primary source is someone like Ferishta. 3) Every single empire went through went through devastations where their documents and entire libraries were destroyed. Yet certain civilisations(Chinese, Greeks, Romans for example) wrote so much that we can still have a wealth of information about them unlike India. We literally pajeet ITT claiming we have such paucity records because of burning down of some ancient unis(the usual trope is to bring up Nalanda as if every historical and scientific record from the entirety lundias history were hidden there with no copies anywhere else). I wouldn't be surprised if those unis that Muslims did burn down only contained religious ooga abooga shit like every other goddamn ancient monument.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 03:24:35 242040 Reply
>>242039 >do you see native Americans saying said history Said history is fake*
Fashy anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 03:59:29 242043 Reply
>>242029 >(Insert Autistic Laughing) THE STATE OF THE RESIDENT HISTORY FAG ON INCH, (Again Laughter) Kek, I knew some subaltern 70 IQ retard will misinterpret my statement, to "Own me". What I meant is that the fact that the fact that they wrote extensively on lineages of what you call "Fictional characters", which has little to no change in the plot, thereby proves the point that the people in the past, did infact give a lot of importance to History. >Purposely avoids discussion on Sangham literature. >Doesn't even acknowledge the possibility that several writings are lost within time (Like how the History of Etruscans, by Roman Emperor Claudius, being lost in the sands of time). >Even Pajeet areas which didn't have such islamic influence don't have proper historical records. How do you know? >Imagine how retarded you have to be to believe that a handful of "institutions" up north had a majority of your scripts and records with no copies anywhere else that no muslims conveniently destroyed. Are you implying that this never happened? Also, are you retarded enough to not know that mass printing techniques were non-existent until the Woodblock method was invented in China, which was then used in India, for textiles. >Also Plebbit spacing and overusage of the term Pajeet. You'll never be a whitefag, sepoy.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:12:08 242047 Reply
>Correction for the Greeks. I never denied Greeks having extensive works, my point was that even despite that a great deal of those works have been lost and much of what we have are recreations from fragments or records from others. >do you see native Americans saying said history because the work is done by a German? Are the Greeks ungrateful to the English and French archaeologists who dug up theirs? Yes you glorious retard, it is a point of conjecture that regularly gets heated in academic journals. Native tribes constantly push back against what they consider european revisionism of their culture and history, there are many native scholars that worked their entire lives correcting interpretations of european archaeological records of artifacts destroyed by europeans. You can still find greeks today who are upset over the english involvement in their liberation movement from the ottomans as they felt it served to sever their history as romans. The holding of greek artifacts in british museums is still a political issue. So again you’ve missed the point. When it comes to all other nations, this type of behavior where you see a mix of internal and external academics debating history is valid, but when it comes to India only an outsider perspective which politically rejects all internal interpretations is valid. >How often do you see Greeks bitch that the Roman records shouldn't be used or islamic record shouldn't be used because they're biased against? Again, all the fucking time. You’ve either come across no serious historical works or you are intentionally lying. Even something as mundane as early accounts of contact with natives will get different european groups start seething at each other because the english, french, and Spanish records all had different reasons to interpret different things in different ways. It’s why written records are not considered a perfect source. >3) This entire “point” is pure speculation to the end that I don’t even know what your argument is even supposed to be. Are you genuinely trying to say that a lack of written records is evidence that written records never existed? Are you unaware that there is still a massive corpus of written and archeological records across India and South Asia? Greek, Roman, and Chinese records are held up to such a high standard because they are exceptions, not the norm. The absolute vast majority of human civilizations have almost nothing left behind. Egyptian and Mesopotamians records have been painstakingly pieced together over quite literally hundreds of years, arguably thousands in the case of some Mesopotamian civilizations. There were only a few Native American civilizations that left behind pieces capable of being used to interpret their past. Early celtic, slavic, and germanic history are a jumbled mess that ironically had to be connected to India before they started making sense. This whole argument is nonsense start to finish. It only exists to be a political anti-Indian tool. Only other countries are allowed to argue over their history. Only other countries are allowed to have fragmented histories. Nobody seems to bat an eye when Germans are unable to retrace where they came from or why they have no written history until after the Romans taught them to be civilized. Suddenly, it’s okay to have gaps. But for India it’s always a different set of rules. Indian history must be decided by outsiders. Indian history is immediately invalid because portions have been destroyed or records have been lost. It doesn’t matter what does exist, that large amounts exist, or even that the records that do exist stretch back thousands of years. It’s a double standard that you’re promoting to undermine the academic field and push an anti-Indian political narrative.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:22:42 242048 Reply
>>242043 >What I meant is that the fact that the fact that they wrote extensively on lineages of what you call "Fictional characters", They're fictional characters. >which has little to no change in the plot, Thanks, was the question about pajeets could write fanfiction at best based loosely on some real events? Do you think that counts a documenting? It's funny isn't it? You use this as some sort of evidence of documenting history but for some reason pajeets have forgotten this skill for literally every single actual "real empires and kingdoms from Mauryas to Vijayanagar. And also pajeet, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the fact you think documenting "lineages" fictional as they're is an accomplishment worth bragging about (something any worthwhile civilisation considers a bare minimum) is amusing. The only place where you dimwit like you can pass off these garbo arguments as anything more than a cope of downie retard is InCh. >How do you know? Common sense. Were the records of Vijayanagar and wodeyars in there as well? Did muslims lose all their historical records when mongols burnt down the house of wisdom? Did burning down of the library of Alexandria doom the entirety of every single civilisation related to it? Why would say Cholas or Cheras put all their knowledge and history on Nalanda or monastery in the north than their own fucking domains. Other civilisations have gone through similar devastations to their records and libraries. You don't see their documents completely disappear. >Implying they never happened LMAO, read properly then. I am not implying anything, I am outright telling​ your low iq ass that the handful incidents have no bearing on the sheer low number of records Indian civilisation has available. In fact I doubt those places actually had decent historical records since that never been the habit of Indians. They most probably contained religious scriptures for the most part like everywhere else in India. Only Indians like are dumb enough to put forth this as a credible argument.
Fashy anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:25:56 242049 Reply
>>242043 Also forgot:- >OMG THERE ARE NO CONTEMPORARY TEXTS ON CHOLAS AND VIJAYANAGAR AND SHIEET. Many rulers used Inscriptions (Think about the Allahabad Pillar, which was defaced to some extent by Jahangir) like pic rel. Some texts like Ettuttokai, Kalingattuparani, Mahavamsa, Ottakuttan's Ulals among others talk about the reign of the kings of Tamilakam, and texts like Achyutabhyudayam and Varadambikaparinayam detail the life of the Vijayanagar king Achyuta Raya (Implying similar historical texts existed for Vijayanagar).
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:33:57 242050 Reply
>>242023 >my point still stands. No it does not Greek culture changed drastically post the conversion to Christianity. Apart from the extreme Turkic influences in the later stages. There old gods became memes for the majority of the rest of there history only being made popular by American Media. The modern Egyptians would consider stuff made in Ancient Egypt as Heresy and genetically I doubt they are even connected to the people. They are arabs and consider themselves Arabs first. So again wrong. As for Indians everyone of them the ancestral dna originating from the IVC from the North to the South. The culture change has been recorded. Also China is not even anything like what even 1900's China had culturally. Heck you can see a extreme difference in Taiwan and China and see how little China might be actually practicing Chinese culture. They actively destroyed there legacy after the cultural revolution. Indians have there own narrative but it got hijacked by anglos and the Jews and our great freedom fighters instead of fighting over it happily handed them over in a platter. If you ignore western academia our narrative is pretty coherent for the most part.. You are just lolberandu with an inferiority complex...
Fashy anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:36:14 242051 Reply
>>242048 >On muh supposed fanfiction. Holy shit, you are really retarded. What I clearly implied there was that Indians in the past, CLEARLY DID INFACT GIVE A SHIT IN HISTORY AND LINEAGES. If they were able to do this with "muh fictional characters", they sure did with actual figures (like the Patirrupattu) >Second point. Addressed it here:- >>242049 >Third argument is just speculation and sheer bias. Why am I actually bothering to respond to faggots who use a blend of circular logic and Jewish debate methods?
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:42:32 242052 Reply
>>242048 >Did muslims lose all their historical records when mongols burnt down the house of wisdom? the destruction of the house of wisdom was so severe that it literally is the contemporary defining point of the major downward slide of the middle east and the collapse of arab hegemony you idiot. it's pretty much the point of no return for the iraq ever being a civilized place or even relevant again until the start of the petroleum age. and the house of wisdom wasn't even a uniquely muslim structure. It begin with the Sassanian and housed texts from many parts of the world and then transformed in nature twice as it changed hands. And now historians can't even locate where it used to be because the mongols so thoroughly wrecked it. This is literally the perfect example of a massive corpus of unique volumes being forever lost due to human destruction resulting in a massive negative cultural shift for the people of that region and it's existence only being known due to regional oral accounts and limited records from neighboring areas. Good job retard, you argued his entire point for him.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:47:36 242053 Reply
>>242049 >Argue there's a paucity of records >Pajeet brings out one stone carving to show there """some""" records Pajeet this is why you should read actual history instead of fanfiction. These are considered inadequate. Chinese for example keep such detailed records that you can accurately calculate the GNI of the Mings >>242051 >Holy shit, you are really retarded. What I clearly implied there was that Indians in the past, CLEARLY DID INFACT GIVE A SHIT IN HISTORY AND LINEAGES. If they were able to do this with "muh fictional characters", Retard learn to read, writing lineages for fictional charatcers is not "evidence of record keeping". For that you need to have actual records. Are you so cretinous that you don't understand that isn't comparable to say writing down actual events in detail of an entire actual empire. You're basically saying "I know every single pre-brit indian empire has limited records but this detailed fanfiction shows we did have records" do you understand how retarded that is.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:56:12 242054 Reply
>>242053 It's funny how limited your arguments are getting every fucking time. Go back to plebbit lolberandu. You are only embarrassing yourself...
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:56:52 242055 Reply
>>242052 >the destruction of the house of wisdom was so severe that it literally is the contemporary defining point of the major downward slide of the middle east and the collapse of arab hegemony you idiot. it's pretty much the point of no return for the iraq ever being a civilized place or even relevant again until the start of the petroleum age. Thanks for taking the bait cretin. The destruction of the house of wisdom being seen as some of decline is a pop history myth . It devastating sure, but calling it a defining point and the start of some sort of islamic dark age is comically juvenile and illiterate.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:57:25 242056 Reply
>>242051 Those lineages were mostly fictional, just like Jesus' complete lineage tracing back to Adam, the main purpose of those 'lineage history' isn't actually meant to be taken for granted but more as proof of legitimacy of the final descendant in that lineage. To begin with none of those 'lineages' can be recorded by contemporary writers, most just rely on pure guesswork and sometimes just their own fan fiction. >muslims burned down every fucking historical record we have in every part of the country but here's some publicly erected stone edicts mostly done by rulers as a dick measuring contest to prove that we had recorded hsitory
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 04:58:57 242057 Reply
>>242054 The fashy cuck is shrinking in his arguments and I am responding appropriately. He can't argue anything about actual history because he's poorly read.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:02:58 242058 Reply
>>242055 You have a point there that it is exxagerated since the Islamic age of dominance continues for the next 600 years. But you can see the clear shift of intellectual power move from the east to the west...
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:03:39 242059 Reply
>>242055 the islamic golden age ends with the siege of baghdad during which the house of wisdom was destroyed which shifted the remaining arab power into egypt where they faded away against the risking turkic powers. it's not a random coincidence that nothing else comes out of the arab world once they run out of greek, persian, and indian texts to translate after 1258. try watching less john greene and reading more books dumbass.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:09:11 242060 Reply
>>242057 You are comparing record keep ing to the fucking Choinese. Chink record-keeping has been exceptional throughout even better than Europeans for that matter. They did invent paper so obviously they would be best at record keeping. In India palm leaves were used which were more prone to decomposition and so must have perished considering how ruthless the Indian weather in general is for preserving anything... I would blame a lot of loss of our history simply because of rapid climatic decay that happens due to the indian environment..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:12:29 242061 Reply
>>242053 retard, "detailed fanfiction" does not show we had records, it shows we were capable, but didn't care about it you fuckin monkey
Fashy anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:18:06 242062 Reply
>>242053 >Pajeet brings out one stone carving to show there """some""" records Kek, now you are gaslighting over the texts I've mentioned, clearly showing the fact that you can only resort to cherrypicking. >Muh Ming GNI and shieet. Still doesn't consider the idea that books and texts can be lost in time, even after showing you contemporary biographies >>242057 Kek, the amount of projection. You proved nothing aside from reiterating the same ill-informed and autistic hot takes, which I had already thoroughly debunked, with examples. >>242056 The texts I've mentioned below were written by contemporary biographers, under the Patronage of the kings, like the Achyitabhudayam and Pattirupattu (written by contemporary. On the subject of legitimacy, I could argue that Roman history is full of 'proving the legitimacy of the Augustus', considering the fact that their texts mention how they married or is the son of the great granddaughter of (Insert random Roman hero). >On muh Dick measuring contest pillars. Sure, but there night be some truth within those pillars. The Allahabad Pillar, which I had mentioned had the inscriptions of both Ashoka and Samudragupta (which are both recognised as Great Regional Hegemons, even by le Gora historian).
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:21:20 242063 Reply
>>242047 >I never denied Greeks having extensive works, my point was that even despite that a great deal of those works have been lost and much of what we have are recreations from fragments or records from others. Negroid, this is like missing the forest for the trees. What you call fragments would be cosidered an encyclopedia by Indian standards and Greek Histroy is nowhere near reliant on foreign account as Indias. Many of those foreign records are copies/translations of Greek texts(arabs, romans, ottomans, etc.. did that) which at the point were so plentiful. It's not the case with India where entire aspects of one empires history is reliant on some passing remarks from trvaellers. How can that exist for India when we wrote very little in the first place? >Yes you glorious retard, it is a point of conjecture that regularly gets heated in academic journals. Native tribes constantly push back against what they consider european revisionism of their culture and history, there are many native scholars that worked their entire lives correcting interpretations of european archaeological records of artifacts destroyed by europeans. You pop histroy reading faggot, yes there are cotentions with interpretations that happens even among native historians. They still rely upon those foundtional works and they still collobrate with foreign historians. That's why even today some of the most respected authors in those fields will be europeans. Idk what sjw native shitter you have been reading but nobody completely dismisses works of foreingner as propoganda as you cretins do >Again, all the fucking time. You’ve either come across no serious historical works or you are intentionally lying. Cretinous faggot, are you confusing whatever shithole forums you go to with academics? Actual academics know how to work with foreign accounst(biases and all) without dismissing them entirely like the third rate nationlaists here do >You can still find greeks today who are upset over the english involvement in their liberation movement from the ottomans as they felt it served to sever their history as romans. That has literally nothing to do with whether Greeks oppose archaelogical works done to preserve their history or works done on their history by foreign authors midwit. You're conflating some fringe opinion on Greeks wanting to be a part of Ottomans with this? what's wrong? Did you have trouble finding any major conflicts greeks have with french and english historians working on Greek history, so you brought up some issue tangentially related to it. >This entire “point” is pure speculation to the end that I don’t even know what your argument You absolute cretin. Let me do it inbullet points for you. 1) Majority of these happened in the north(most famously nalanda) 2) It doesn't explain paucity of information in other regions(unless you're implying kingdoms like Cheras for example not having much information on them due to putting all their records in those northern monestariers instead of their own domains which would make no sense) 3) It also doesn't explain paucity of records like in Vijayangar and Maratha empires which came after those destructions. Indians didn't document shit properly before or after tthose events. There's nothing to suggest that those places were some grand repositories of historical texts. It's ultimately pajeet cope.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:24:11 242064 Reply
>>242062 *Take out the (written by contemporary) part >>242061 I wrote a few examples of contemporary historical treatises, which some of these retarded faggots fail to accept, into their argument.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:26:38 242065 Reply
>>242050 >Greek culture changed drastically post the conversion to Christianity It was not that drastic because you don't know what you're talking about. The Greeks had been Romans for a while at that point and their identity was Romans switching to a new Roman religion. Even the western decision to switch to Latin was seen as a move away from Roman tradition as Greek had been widely spoken within the empire and early christianity was literally the fusion of popular greek philosophies combining with a semetic religion. >extreme Turkic influence little to none, they barely left a genetic imprint outside Anatolia. As with most invaders, the Turks adopted many of the customs of the different regions they settled down to rule over. >There old gods became memes for the majority of the rest of there history only being made popular by American Media. this is blatantly false and it makes me wonder if you even know anything about European history. Greek culture plays a foundational role in western european identity, it's why the renaissance is called the renaissance. >and genetically I doubt they are even connected to the people. They are arabs and consider themselves Arabs first. don't be obtuse. across the world there have been very little changes and most changes have been quite recent. Sub Saharan admixture didn't begin until after Roman rule ended in Egypt and even then it's clearly very little. Arab identity within Egypt was born politically and it's form is incredibly modern. >stuff about indians I think I agree. Seems like you're saying you can trace them back genetically and see the cultural shifts. True. >Also China is not even anything like what even 1900's China had culturally... They actively destroyed there legacy after the cultural revolution. the europeans did the same thing during the darkening ages but like the chinese they didn't destroy everything and they still hold links to their past. The Chinese government of today may not be the same style of the Chinese government from 2,000 years ago, but they still practice similar philosophies. The mandate of heaven is still a political term that is taken seriously in China. Legalism and Confucius thought still play a heavy role in their political ideologies. This is like arguing America should historically split into two distinct nations, pre and post sexual revolution. My arguments were never against change. My point continues to be that these changes which occur over long periods of time don't sever a people from their ancestors. Just because Persians no longer exist doesn't mean modern Iranians don't have a connection to them.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:29:40 242067 Reply
>>242062 >Kek, now you are gaslighting over the texts I've mentioned, clearly showing the fact that you can only resort to cherrypicking. >Muh Ming GNI and shieet. Still doesn't consider the idea that books and texts can be lost in time, even after showing you contemporary biographies This is why it's so easy to deal with self-styled pajeet intellectuals online like you. Look at some of the carefully chosen words I used to describe the issue at hand in my previous comments. >limited texts >Puacity of information Heck even in OP I say this >>Whites arrive, take documenting to a new level. Introduce concepts like history as an academic field, archeology, preserving ruins, etc...create some of the foundational works on Indian history by compiling everything from folklore to primary texts Anyone with half a braincel could see I never said we had zero primary texts cretin. It's funny you remind of medoicre pajeets I see in gyms who get amazed when some 90 kilo roidhead deadlifts some 80 kilos whereas anywhere in the west you won't get any respect until you do more than 2x your bodyweight. Similarly a pajeet like you would trot out some stone edict glorifying some kings accomplishment with bare minimum information as something great.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:31:01 242068 Reply
>>242065 whoops forgot to attach
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:33:57 242070 Reply
>>242060 I am comparing us to the greeks, Romans and the chinese and heck even muslims. A civilisation that we consider backward and barbarian. Let's not even get into ancient empires. The first comprehensive work on Vijayanagar was titled the forgotton empire and that says a lot.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:37:22 242071 Reply
>>242001 lol we had it all documented. but the lunatic pisslim dacoits invaded and plundered the temples and libraries. how do u not know this? so ironic bc u posted about history. god is this how pisslim kids are brainwashed.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:43:19 242072 Reply
>>242001 and btw Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indians are collectively called as pajeets by western fags (the ones who made the slur) so if you're calling a heendu pajeet, you're the pajeet.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:51:41 242073 Reply
>>242065 >It was not that drastic because you don't know what you're talking about. The Greeks had been Romans for a while at that point and their identity was Romans switching to a new Roman religion. Even the western decision to switch to Latin was seen as a move away from Roman tradition as Greek. Yeah my point stays the Greek culture changed. Because the Roman state said so. They didn't resist it. That's how it usually starts. There's literally no influence of Greek thought on Christian theology. If any it's Jewish influence bending Greek thought. >little to none, they barely left a genetic imprint outside Anatolia. As with most invaders, the Turks adopted many of the customs of the different regions Yeah the Turks basically ate a huge part of the area and turkified and islamicised a Greek christian orthodox region. The rest of chrisitian Greece was under the thumb of islamic Ottomans and with Rus. Greece became a shadow of its former self after accepting christianity. >you even know anything about European history. Greek culture plays a foundational role in western european identity, it's why the renaissance is called the renaissance. No it doesn't. You have barely any understanding of Euro history then. The Renaissance didn't happen because of muh Greeks. It's because of the trade knowledge transfer from the muslims of al andalus in Spain that begin the Renaissance and rejection of christian thought. The art though has Roman influence which was adopted from the Greeks and spread out to whole of Europe for civilising them but that had been already been happening since 1st-10th century AD. It was just a compilation of the knowledge and highe living standards due to stability achieved by the Western Euro states.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 05:54:26 242074 Reply
>>242063 http://kiwihellenist.blogspot.com/2019/12/who-preserved-greek-literature.html A bit about the over exagerration of other players in preserving greek texts.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 06:01:48 242075 Reply
>>242065 >The Chinese government of today may not be the same style of the Chinese government from 2,000 years ago, but they still practice similar philosophies. The mandate of heaven is still a political term that is taken seriously in China. Legalism and Confucius thought still play a heavy role in their political ideologies You do know most of this is just western orientalism at play trying to show China as some cultural phoophah. China is Zog soulless society. Chinese were always materialistic but post CCP they have been made uncultured and unhinged. That's why you will see videos of Chinks trying to larp too hard as some Ming Era chink with some Qin Era costume. CCP did the Job. Isn't it fascinating that every major cultural Chinese export that made the Chinese memorable actually came from British Hong Kong. And when you see Mainland Chinese Movies it's just a bunch of CGI shit trying to imitate Hollywood with no soul or originality. That's what the damage is.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 06:03:25 242076 Reply
>>242068 That's a pretty significant distance for a population that is basically culturally and linguistically already seperate..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 06:06:45 242077 Reply
>>242059 As I said you're exposing yourself as a pop history reading brainlet again and again. Baghdad was in a sorry state by the time the Mongols arrived; the intellectual centres of the Islamic world had moved elsewhere, and the House of Wisdom was not what it had been before. A civilisation declining because of the destruction of a single library is comical.
Fashy anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 06:17:21 242078 Reply
>>242067 I never denied the idea that the British helped to compile Indian History, you retarded imbecile. What I merely stated was the fact that there was indeed a fine amount of regional texts detailing the history of a place, which you initially denied and gaslighted, and then proceeded to rectify it after I listed the same examples 4 times, and used strawman like "muh Pajeet historian or self-styled intellectual" to discard my argument. I never >You had also never mentioned that you were the OP >Continuous Ad-Homeniums. >Similarly a pajeet like you would trot out some stone edict glorifying some kings accomplishment with bare minimum information as something great. I also mentioned texts, mate. >muh Paucity WE SHOULD LEARN WHERE THE KINGS SHIT AND PISS AND SHIEET. Talking about the accomplishments and defeats of the ruler is what most fags want, and they had been written in this "scarce way" for that purpose. >Incoherent simping for westfags, talking about weightlifting. Nig ga, stop simping for whitoids, that's all I gotta say.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 06:53:35 242080 Reply
>>242078 >>242078 > What I merely stated was the fact that there was indeed a fine amount of regional texts detailing the history of a place, which you initially denied and gaslighted And as I tried to repeatedly reiterate, You're arguing against a point that I never made. > WE SHOULD LEARN WHERE THE KINGS SHIT AND PISS AND SHIEET. Talking about the accomplishments and defeats of the ruler is what most fags want, and they had been written in this "scarce way" for that purpose. There's a difference between wanting to know where an emperor shat and relevant details of governance, lineage, trade, battles. For example Take for instance the Pallavan invasion and destruction of Vatapi. This was a series of battles in a war that involved pretty much all major Dakshina Bharatam and Sri Lanka. That was fought over a period of 30 years, that saw the deaths of 2 Emperors (Pallavan and Chalukyan) and all we have to show for it are 3 copper plates, Velurpalaiyam, Kuram and one more. All basically saying "Mahendravarman (the Pallava Emperor) destroyed Vatapi like the mighty sage Agasthiyar. The entire Chola expedition to Ganga is summarised in 3 lines in their sources. That being said, I would be willing to take the excuse that impeccable record keeping was a rarity among civs and only select civs do it if Indians didn't constantly dismiss western and islamic sources when its convenient, use the lack of sources to make grandoise claims and then backtrack when asked for proof by saying Anglos and Katuas destroyed it.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 07:44:30 242085 Reply
>>242080 >use the lack of sources to make grandoise claims and then backtrack when asked for proof by saying Anglos and Katuas destroyed it. What nobody blames k2a's or anglos for saying that they destroyed history. K2a's are blamed for the scientific and philosophical regression and loss of knowledge you tard. K2a's actually did such a great book keeping that they had extremely detailed records on how,when and where they Genocided Heendus... Anglos are blamed for stealing and manipulating indian knowledge and research. Nowhere does anybody blame that they fucked our history you retard..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 07:48:21 242086 Reply
>>242085 >What nobody blames k2a's or anglos for saying that they destroyed history. Participate in RW forums or even InCh for a while.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 07:52:53 242088 Reply
>>242059 Books written after WW2 should all be burned and you're a brainlet for falling for the memes they repeat. >>242058 Christians already had taken the lead by the 11th century, high medieval Christian science>>>Muslim science by far. Oresme for example. Its mostly just the Greeks sinking into illiteracy and the Roman LARPers picking up their slack, Muslims never were worth much. >B..but this guy was Syrian/Egyptian They're all Greek. Every MEner of worth post Alexander's conquest was the descendant of Greeks. Next.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 07:54:08 242089 Reply
>>242085 What did they steal and what did they manipulate?
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:03:02 242091 Reply
>>242089 Well mistranslations of Vedas into racial justification of colonialism. Appropriating the Aryan term. Then actual historic artifact's to literally everything they could find they stole. Then you have cases of taking indian mathematical knowledge getting transferred and making it there own. God knows what not is not even given any credit. You are literally reading out like a subhuman sepoy at this point if you ar edicksucking bongs and k2a's this badly. Literally Kill yourself. And I assume you are a corpse worshipping christcuck to have no shame..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:08:57 242093 Reply
>>242088 >high medieval Christian science Gigakek what shit cope is this? What christian inventions happened in 11 th century??? Since Most tech were spread from China by the Turks and Mongols who invade and ravaged those lands..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:11:19 242095 Reply
>>242091 >Then actual historic artifact's to literally everything they could find they stole. If they wanted that, then Indian museums would be empty. >Then you have cases of taking indian mathematical knowledge getting transferred and making it there own. Oh this should be fun. Like what?
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:14:51 242096 Reply
>>242088 >Christians already had taken the lead by the 11th century Not really, the Europoors started overtaking when the power shifted from southern europe to northern europe, which was sometime post 15th century They were stealing shit as basic as the fibonacci numbers and diophantine equation solutions
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:15:35 242097 Reply
>>242095 Kek you literally are gas lighting now. It's so cringey lol. Are you a cumskin or a christcuck subhuman dalit? Hilarious Never seen such a sepoy. I assume you are one of those guys who dilate your assholes infront of white mastah and says "sir where are you from" "sir what do you do sir" Fucking nigger..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:19:39 242098 Reply
>>242095 >>242095 >If they wanted that, then Indian museums would be empty. Well they pretty much are. Their queen wears the kohinoor and flaunts it you sepoyjeet chamaar. And they have spread our artifact's everywhere. Also Fibonacci literally just translated the indian treatise and was given the credit. Fucking kill yourself sepoyjjeet bhangi
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:26:02 242100 Reply
>>242096 Kek Europoors didn't become dominating force until the 18th century. Even at the peak of there power i.e; WW1 they had to combine all there forces to defeat the Ottomans and even in that they failed. Mind you those Ottomans were weak and declining and was known as the sick Man of Europe.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:31:29 242101 Reply
>>242098 >Well they pretty much are So you're a pajeet who has never visited a museum. No wonder historically illiterate faggots like you whine about not knowing Indian history. It says a lot that when you open your shit filled mouth, Kohinoor is the word that pops out because that's what you read about on your Facebook page or WhatsApp group. >Also Fibonacci literally just translated the indian treatise and was given the credit. Now not only is this wildly inaccurate, let us for arguments sake assume this is true. How does this prove your initial claim of theft by Anglo occupation? Do you know who Fibonacci is, which country he is from and which era he lived in? See pajeet, at least the fashy dude and the Ameriflag dude were somewhat well read on history even if they're incredibly biased. You're the kind subhuman that should ideally commenting under YT videos or Truedindology's twitter posts.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:40:46 242103 Reply
>>242101 I've vistied more Museums than the total cities you have visited Chamaar dalit. And do you know what I hear everytime of some missing portion of an artifact. Ohhh the British took it,Ohh the Muslims destroyed it. Stop coping like a nigger and go back to r/Cuckerandu Granted Fibonacci was shitalian but everybody from Eurobhangistan came and started probing our stuff. And didn't the eurobhangis all come in and started translating our stuff chamaar. Kohinoor was an easy example just to show your pea sized brain of what they stole. You can literally go to any western museums filled with Indian artifact's that were stolen during the time of British. Empire. Stop justifying shit you can't sepoy bhangi. Anglos came along with other gora bhangis and started probing our stuff. You are literally trying to ignore the shit that happened just to prove some idiotic retard point of yours. Kohinoor is still on the crown irrespective if it's on Facebook or chinstagram. So you literally couldn't prove shit apart from acting smug... Stop coping lolberandu Sepoyjeet bhangi
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 08:54:08 242104 Reply
>>242103 >I've vistied more Museums than the total cities you have visited Chamaar dalit. Did you visit those museums to clean toilet pajeetoid faggot? Because if you actually looked at the displays you would realise pajeets have plenty of heritage left behind. Heck, if the argument is that the majority of pajeet heritage is contained in British museums then Pajeet must not have been very great since the amount of shit present there is not that much. >Granted Fibonacci was shitalian but everybody from Eurobhangistan came and started probing our stuff.. Hahahahahaha....too proud to admit you were wildly wrong kek. You could save yourself plenty of embarrassments if you didn't comment the way you shit. As for Fibonacci he didn't "probe" lundia the way your father did with your underage ass. Whatever outside knowledge he got was through Arab traders in the coasts (and through them he gained info on a variety of knowledge from Egyptians to Indians). The series itself was present in Indian poetry but that's not the same as using Math to explain natural processes. >Kohinoor was an easy example You chose the Kohinoor because you're a pop history reading bhangi who probably has never read an academic text. A negroid who gets his info from WhatsApp groups and twitter accounts. You're a braindeadbhangi who is too illiterate to discuss any of these topics. I suggest you crawl back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:01:26 242105 Reply
>>242104 >Haha Pajeet Pajeeet Pajeettt Kek seething so hard Sepoyjeet Chamaar. You have such a inferiority complex it's kinda hilarious. Would unironically recommend you to rope >Hahahahahaha....too proud to admit you were wildly wrong kek. How? You said stolen Fibonacci had stolen. He gets all the credit even though the credit should go to the Indian mathematicians. https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/indians-predated-newton-discovery-by-250-years/ This is just another case to hide that they had stolen it from us and are now trying to distance it by calling it muh parallel debelopment >The series itself was present in Indian poetry but that's not the same as using Math Hmm yes Gora saheb invention maths Indian invention not maths sure sure sepoy >You chose the Kohinoor because you're a pop history reading bhangi who probably has never read an academic text. No because it's unironically the easiest example of what Anglos stole. And are the proudest to flaunt it. You can go to bong library to see how many Indian artifacts they have Sepoyjeet. Try harder next time and go back to plebbit...
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:14:19 242108 Reply
>>242105 >Kek seething so hard Sepoyjeet Chamaar What's the matter bhangi? Does the word pajeet burn your ass that much? Lmao. >How? You said stolen Fibonacci had stolen Illiterate bhangi, where did I say Fibonacci stole anything? You tired to use Fibonacci as an example of British theft. Proven to be hilariously wrong. You claimed he stole from Indians. Again wrong, he gained info on other cultures through Arab traders. You think he gets sole credit unfairly. Again wrong. He gets credit because actually used math to explain natural processes. India the series is present in poetry. If you weren't midwit illiterate, you would know the difference. > https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/indians-predated-newton-discovery-by-250-years/ HAHAHAHAHA. Chamaar that's we wuzzery about Newton, nothing to do with Fibonacci. So not only did you prove that you're an illiterate bhangi pajeet who gets his history from journalists, you don't even know which one you should use as an evidence for what. >Hmm yes Gora saheb invention maths Indian invention not maths sure sure sep You're too dumb for English and too dumb for math. > No because it's unironically the easiest example of what Anglos stole. As I said bhangi if as you say a majority of pajeet civilisation's artifacts are contained in British museums and libraries then the pajeet civilisations must not have been that great. It must've been puny and irrelevant if they British can contain by allocating some sections of their museums and libraries. Kek.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:20:05 242109 Reply
>>242108 >What's the matter bhangi? Does the word pajeet burn your ass that much? Lmao. It doesn't but it's absolutely hilarious when you try to use it as an insult when you are yourself a pajeet. Your inferiority complex reeks sepoyjeet >HAHAHAHAHA. Chamaar that's we wuzzery about Newton, nothing to do with Fibonacci. newton was British so my point is proven. Go on more circular arguments sepoy. It's sad that you are trying so had >As I said bhangi if as you say a majority of pajeet civilisation's artifacts are contained in British museums and libraries then the pajeet civilisations must not have been that great. It must've been puny and irrelevant if they British can contain by allocating some sections of their museums and Kek sure If we have literal sepoyjeets like you with no actual understanding of History then sure it must not be great...
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:25:55 242111 Reply
>>242108 Lmao are you talking about the rabbits thing? That was literally just a word problem whose solution was the series. And fibonacci is credited with discovering the series, not just explaining the "natural process".
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:27:04 242112 Reply
>>242111 Yeah, Fibonacci is accredited with finding the actual sequence. It's literally in the name.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:34:36 242114 Reply
>>242091 The rig veda is written by a bunch of steppe nigs, reading snub nosed as those without a language is the revisionist angle. >Mathematics Cite source showing they 'stole' anything. Not some school that developed independently in Europe after it did in India, specific instances of them 'stealing'. >>242093 Pic rel is post 1000.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:37:42 242115 Reply
>It doesn't You could've fooled me with the massive amount of seethe you're displaying right now. Lamo >newton was British so my point is proven And bhangi? Your own article doesn't say Newton stole it from pajeet land? Do you know why? He died in 1727, lmao. He wrote his treatise in calculus in 1660s. Long before Brits took over kerala. It's like your pea sized brain can't comprehend that two cultures can come up with the same ideas in parallel​. There's a reason why even the retarded journo isn't coming to the same dumb conclusion that you do right now.(the article implies he got it through the jesuits which if you've read the dumb article you would know). You know what the funniest part is? The book mentioned in the article has been debunked as badhistory long back. I should know because I've actually read the fucking book(crest of the peacock). >Kek sure If we have literal sepoyjeets like you with no actual understanding of History Pajeet you don't understand timelines, math or even simple English for that matter. The shit you're spewing, I have seen spewed by similar npc illiterate pajeets hundreds of times. Morons like you make it too easy.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:41:58 242116 Reply
>>242114 Late medieval. >>242109 The issue with all Indian(Honestly Asiatic) scholarship is that none of it ever developed into an actual school. Susruta existed, sure, but his science died with him and perhaps his immediate disciples. Europeans improved upon the core ideas, some developed by Europeans and some by foreigners over generations, set up universities to teach them and further develop them and turned scientific knowledge into something with material utility. Indians and Asiatics never did that.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:49:40 242117 Reply
>>242115 Kek you are such a brainlet. It's not even funny. Read the fucking article the info was transferred from Jesuits. You fucking tard. The credit was given to Newton even though again. It was taken off from India. And Brits had come to India by the 1600's wouldn't be amazed if the first interaction was with mallu's as malluland was always the more popular ports for India..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 09:56:16 242118 Reply
>>242100 Tell me, what was the Crimean war about? Who was Muhammad Ali? >And they failed Oh forget it, you're literally making headcanon ww1 outcomes. Lol. No losing your whole empire, getting genocided in the imperial provinces and losing 25% of your total, core population is not winning, the Ottomans lost the most among the Central Powers.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 10:02:59 242119 Reply
>>242117 >Kek you are such a brainlet. It's not even funny. Read the fucking article the info was transferred from Jesuits. Behold the power the pajeet reading comprehension. A quote from the comment this pajeetoid is replying >.(the article implies he got it through the jesuits which if you've read the dumb article you would know) It's an interesting strategy to pretend that I didn't say the stuff that I actually did but alas everyone who has eyes and can read can see through it. Now let's go even further in laughing at your pajeet reading comprehension. >And there is strong circumstantial evidence that the Indians passed on their discoveries to mathematically knowledgeable Jesuit missionaries who visited India during the fifteenth century. Do you know why say "circumstantial evidence" instead of just evidence ? Because it's merely speculation offered by that mallu pajeet in crest of a peacock. Kek, Literally 0 evidence of it actually exists. So being a we wuzzing pajeet that Joseph is, he tried to find one instance of some jesuits visiting kerala and automatically assumed they took it from them.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 10:15:23 242120 Reply
>>242011 Reservations exist because of what the establishment claims exists today, not in the past. Reservations are the logical outcome of the blank slate idea of human nature, which even cursory knowledge of history would make impossible to maintain. For example, affirmative action is extended to all minorities in China despite the average Ughyur or Tibeti literally having nothing to do with the average Han till mid 20th century, historically. Their poverty and failure to match the Han standard is all the justification that is needed.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 10:53:15 242126 Reply
>>242120 You know it's sad. The accomplishments of Kerala school of mathematics are great enough to stand on its own but of course some dumb we wuzzing had to make up speculation about how we not only invent X but also that the Euros stole the knowledge from us. Now the hindpoo nats who probably failed high school math use that to claim entire field surrounding X came about because of us. Other Indians see this behaviour and develop self-reflexive embarrassment in taking pride in their culture.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 11:22:09 242131 Reply
>>242119 >It's an interesting strategy to pretend that I didn't say the stuff that I actually did but alas everyone who has eyes and can read can see through it. Funny coming from someone who is using the exact same tactic. Sepoyjeet your subhumanness is truly pathetic. Keep trying though also why do you have such an inferiority complex did you unironically got raped o by a cumskin kek...
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 11:33:26 242132 Reply
>>242118 >Crimean war >1853 >19th century >Me talking about 18th century >Also I was talking about Turkish war of independence not WW1 Two literal braindead cucklorandus trying to act smug...
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 11:38:49 242133 Reply
>>242119 >Also plebbit spacing No wonder I felt I was talking to literal sub-human shitstain Sepoyjeet. Shit wasted my day kek
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 11:41:59 242134 Reply
>>242118 >the Ottomans lost the most among the Central Powers. LOL You underestimate turks a lot, there is a reason pakis worship them. Russians literally got their ruling family genocided by bolsheviks and got their 800 years of empire in wastedump. Turks defeated all the European power all at the same time, turks are far more martial than any whitoid
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 11:42:37 242135 Reply
>>242131 Stop backpedalling poopoid. I quoted specific sentences of yours that you got wrong or had no relevance to your retarded arguments while you entirely missed mine. You have neither the intellect nor the knowledge to argue here. >Shit wasted my day That's a nice excuse to bow out of this after the ass whopping you just got here. Don't worry one day you'll graduate from reading Wikipedia and news articles to reading academic texts.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 11:49:22 242136 Reply
>>242135 You have to have really low IQ to believe Goras will keep evidence of thievery but expected from a plebbitor. Even after speculation. Kek literal sub-human chamaaroid. Gave two cases of both ripping off from Indian works taking credits still want proof even after link a university site article. Kek Stick to plebbit chamaaroid..
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 12:01:38 242139 Reply
>>242136 >You have to have really low IQ to believe Goras will keep evidence of thievery. You mean like how Fibonacci credited each and every source of his knowledge(from Egyptians to Arabs and Indians). It's funny when a gora gives you credits you go "we wuzz invaaanters and shieet" when there's no evidence for your speculation "they destroyed our knowledge and shieeet". Did you know who dug up many of those KSM texts? Yep, an Anglo. Without your retarded pajeet ass wouldn't even have the requisite basis for we wuzzery. So why didn't he destroy it? Because unlike what you think they did see value in other cultures. Even the actual book the article refers to isn't brazen enough to call it theft but rather "possible knowledge transmission" because after all the speculation is based on arrival of Jesuit traders(specifically one French Jesuit) not some invader. It's funny because said pajeet textbook refers to gora Historians and primary sources a lot while you argue that all they do is destroy information. >Plebbit When you go back to twitter pajeet.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 13:49:18 242162 Reply
>>242134 >War between Greece and Turkey Not WW1. >>242132 1)Learn to greentext 2)>I was talking about Turkish war of independence Quote ' Even at the peak of there power i.e; WW1' End quote As in >>242100 So tell me chamar, how were you talking about >le turkish war of independence again. As for that war, they defeated Greece and Armenia that I'll grant. Though both are smaller by magnitudes. France and UK both attained their objectives, minus control of the Dardanelles for the UK. In any case, their empire was gone and, again, 25% of their population dead. All because of the Western powers. To pretend they 'won' after, because the Western powers no longer wished to fight and granted them minor concessions in turn is incredibly disingenuous.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 13:55:06 242163 Reply
>>242162 >Not WW1. 1914-1917 war with russia is literally written there subhuman. Its part of ww1
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 13:56:27 242164 Reply
>>242162 Also lmao just imagine simping for literal roaches. How do you combine the most braindead takes from both major religions here so well?
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 14:01:20 242165 Reply
>>242163 Yes, you nigger. The pic I posted is ww1. >>242132 >>242134 Isn't. You see, WW1 ended in 1918.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 14:08:02 242166 Reply
Finally a good thread full of actual discussion instead of monkeys throwing shit at each other and thinking they are smarter than the rest.
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 14:10:08 242168 Reply
>>242165 My bad i meant this >>242134, its not part of ww1 but it was right after ww1, it happened in 1918. >>242164 >simping for literal roaches whats there to hate them? they are secular muslims and conquered europoids with their martial powers, only a fag like you will mock them by whitoid memes seen on pol
anon 06/11/2021 (Fri) 15:23:37 242182 Reply
>>242168 Europeans might not be my friend but Turks are my enemy. >Muh sekkkular Kill yourself midwit.
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